Vikidia:Requests/Administrators/2014 11

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Comedia has been elected administrator and is necesary to update the template {{List of administrators}} for users to know that he is an administrator. Yoshi ^Talk 22:12, 17 November 2014 (CET)

I've added Comedia to the list. Wynter (talk) 18:12, 18 November 2014 (CET)

Possible sockpuppet abuse/voting twice rulebreaking from User:Jilly

There is currently a speculation of User:Klipe and User:Jilly are two alternative accounts, an issue raised up at my nomination request for adminship (which has been withdrawn)

Here: https://en.vikidia.org/w/index.php?title=Vikidia:Request_for_permissions/Goldenburg111&diff=52781&oldid=52776, Jilly votes 2, not once like you are suppose to, but TWO times here. One oppose under Klipe, and the other oppose as "Jilly". This is rulebreaking, since you are not allowed to vote TWO times in any vote, only once. Now, I think that "Jilly" is a account under Klipe, aka a sockpuuppet of Klipe, since she voted twice, once under Klipe and the other under Jilly.

I honestly think that Jilly read through my patroller request, and since she probably got mad at me opposing her request, she decided to type down one oppose, under Klipe, about an issue that happen 6 months ago and solved 6 months ago, and then another oppose from Jilly herself, writing down an oppose about an issue that happened months ago and already solved and a deletion request for a page that was copied directly from Wikipedia.

But, I'll allow Jilly to write her comments towards this. Wether or not Jilly is an alt of Klipe or not, Jilly should be restricted from voting for about 6 months due to this incident. --Goldenburg111 (talk) 21:53, 18 November 2014 (CET)

Comment: Is necessary a CheckUser for it. Astirmays can be granted to himself the flag. Yoshi ^Talk 22:07, 18 November 2014 (CET)

Is CheckUser a right avaliable on Vikidia? --Goldenburg111 (talk) 22:11, 18 November 2014 (CET)

No, already not but some crat (Astirmays or Plyd) can grant himself the flag. Yoshi ^Talk 22:14, 18 November 2014 (CET)

Alright then. I contacted him. --Goldenburg111 (talk) 22:17, 18 November 2014 (CET)

We have to use the CheckUser tools as few as possible. Here I can hear that the account of Klipe was not used, but just his name, so what would make you think that he is implied in this ? I guess that there is just an issue with Jilly and that you may be able to handle it :-) Astirmays (talk) 22:34, 18 November 2014 (CET)

I honestly don't think they are sockpuppets, but yes indeed Klipe wasn't used, Jilly implied this. I think it's best to restrict Jilly for 6 months from voting. This type of behavior is not acceptable at all. There should be a punishment to poor behavior. --Goldenburg111 (talk) 22:51, 18 November 2014 (CET)

My thoughts: Whoa, can those involved please calm down? I think this is just one big misunderstanding. It seems as if Jilly was just quoting some of Klipe's previous post. I have no comment regarding the validity of the oppose, but regardless: there's no need for CheckUser. Just like Astirmays implied, this is an issue that can and should be handled by calm, drama-less discussion. Wynter (talk) 00:10, 19 November 2014 (CET)

Thank you Wynter for your thoughts. But Jilly didn't quote, she made a new oppose vote under Klipe, basically implying Klipe, not quoting. If you take a look at that history, it shows Jilly adding two oppose votes. That isn't necessarily what a quote is. --Goldenburg111 (talk) 00:18, 19 November 2014 (CET)

I mean Jilly meant to quote Klipe but (accidentally?) copied the oppose template. I don't think she meant to vote twice, and if that is simply the case, let's just remove the extra oppose template and be done with it.

These is my solution to this issue: Jilly, please be more careful next time when copying stuff. Everyone else, please stop the drama and relax. There's no need to get all offended — let's try to assume some good faith, OK? Wynter (talk) 00:25, 19 November 2014 (CET)

Well Wynter, your comment is heartwarming. Man I like your ideas to solving solutions, let's drop this. I would like to erase all of this and just forget about it. But honestly, Jilly kept saying Klipe commented, in which that shows that Jilly knew she added an extra oppose template.

But that's fine. I'll apologize to Colin and Jilly for this unwanted drama. --Goldenburg111 (talk) 00:36, 19 November 2014 (CET)

I am in receipt of one hollow apology from goldenburg. I barely took a breath before I notice that goldeburg totally deleted or erased the entire RFA discussion that has still not been officially closed by an Administrator. Offering up AGF, I reverted goldenburgs possible mistake until such a time whera an admin may formally close it if they so desired. ......Unbelievable the behaviour of Goldenburg111

Best regards! JohnCCollins (talk) 01:14, 19 November 2014 (CET)

I already closed it. It's closed. --Goldenburg111 (talk) 01:20, 19 November 2014 (CET)

comment only an administrator may close a RFA. I voted ONE time in the RFA for goldenburg. Due to his apparent displeasure of the questions of the questions I asked him in his RFA, rather than answer any of the questions goldenburg has lashed out and made unfounded accusations against me of being a Sockpuppetry?Bring out your check user flags if you will. I want to be checkusered to clrsr my name here. I would propose that after my checkuser is done, that goldenburg is blocked fro 36 to 48 hours for his disruption of the Vikidia project today. Sorry to all for what has been what has been a big waste of time for many of us. I will get back to entering more of these articles I have created for vikidia. Good day kind sirs!!! Happy editing Jilly (talk) 01:22, 19 November 2014 (CET)

I personally would formally ask for a checkuser to cure all this drama. Jilly has been accused of being a sock puppet by goldenburger111 When Jilly posted her responses Goldenburger reverted both of them from the page to make it look like dhe never even responded here. Who is this guy. Sounds like he may be afraid of being check usered himself. Why else delete, revert, and erase to only the deep history Jillys response here. I would also ask any admin to evealuate goldenburger111 and his behavior. In my opinion he has severely dispupted the Vikidia project today and deserves at least a one week block if not banished from here forever. Best regards! JohnCCollins (talk) 02:57, 19 November 2014 (CET)

I offer proof in the form of this diff [1] that shows where Goldenburger111 deleted and or reverting Jilly's statements here on the admins board. Please play close attention to the top of the two column shown on the diff. They say:

"Revision as of 19:44, November 18, 2014 (edit) Goldenburg111 (Talk | contribs) m (Reverted edits by Jilly (talk) to last revision by Goldenburg111)"

and:

"Revision as of 20:48, November 18, 2014 (edit) (undo) JohnCCollins (Talk | contribs) (This simply just a total block behavior now for goldenburg111. He has reverted two of Jill's comments she posted to defend herself. CHECKUSER Undo revision 53046 by Goldenburg111 (talk))"

Thanks to all. Best regards, JohnCCollins (talk) 04:25, 19 November 2014 (CET)

Everyone really just needs to drop this: no more accusations or CheckUser threats. Since there are no accounts that appear to be connected any way, there is no need to use CheckUser (although Astirmays will make the final decision, and from his comment above, he seems to think it's unnecessary). By the way, I've "closed and collapsed" the RfA—can we preserve it that way? Oh, and let's stop worrying about this issue, leave it behind, and move forward to continue improving Vikidia. After all, that is why we are supposed to be here! Take a break, create an article, improve an existing one—whatever you want to do. Wynter (talk) 07:27, 19 November 2014 (CET)

Someone on IRC told me to ignore this whole issue. I'm just ignoring this whole issue and actually being productive by starting by new Sri Lankan project. --Goldenburg111 (talk) 13:42, 19 November 2014 (CET)

Shouldn't we add licenses to the Upload File?

Such as Uploading a File, shouldn't we add licenses into the "Pick a License" thing below the summary box? --Goldenburg111 (talk) 03:11, 19 November 2014 (CET)

That sounds like a good idea: let's suggest some and we can add them to MediaWiki:Licenses. I suggest at least CC-by-SA and public domain.

Also, everyone, please keep in mind we're having a serious issue with image thumbnails on Vikidia. I would strongly encourage everyone to use Commons (if possible) until the issue is resolved. Wynter (talk) 07:32, 19 November 2014 (CET)

Hm... It seems like so. What about a section in the License slot named "[Copied with permission by authors]", where you have copied the image by the author, but the author gave permission? --Goldenburg111 (talk) 13:25, 19 November 2014 (CET)

I think that would be a "used with permission" license or something like that—I'll have to check. Wynter (talk) 18:14, 19 November 2014 (CET)

To the active administrators around here...

Please check your history page wynter- much has been reverted all over by golden burger tonight[edit]

Here is what was on the admins board but golden burger has reverted most all things from there.

to the admins - fere are some of my post during the nigh that gold burger hid by reverting them to the history page. I have had too much of his rudeness. I am sure he might revert this too so you can't see it but at least I tried. Look at my talk page and user page he ruined them both, they will never be the same. here you are from last night, Good bye everyone.

Goldenburger111 being horribly disruptive again this evening

Please see here for the proof [2]

he reverted my comments and posts on there several times. Even if I tried to leave a comment he wou;d revert that too. and has taken it upon his un-administrativ self to suddenly close my nom as unsuccessful He is clearly being disruptive please send admin help~

there is this guy called Goldenburg111 on en vikidia reverting and erasing all my comments on a nomination page for me. He is not an admin

Please look at the nom page here and make it more fair, thank you Jilly (talk) 02:31, 20 November 2014 (CET)

Oh lookie here. You said reverted me three times, yet I only reverted that "Princess" account. So you do indeed admit that was your alternative account? I'm reporting that immediately to the administrators. Second, I closed it since everyone knows how immature you are and no one likely trusts you. So I went ahead and closed it as unsuccessful.

Once again, you just admitted that Princess account was you. Admins, I reverted the Princess account since she was removing my comment 3 :times. Now she is saying he reverted ME, ME! She just admit she has a second account. Exact proof she is creating other accounts in order :to have her account successful.

Admins please block this immature person's alt account named "Princess" and block Jilly temporarily for a month possibly, thanks! --Goldenburg111 (talk) 02:38, 20 November 2014 (CET)

I certainly never said anything of the kind. Do not put words in my mouth gburg. Now you are accusing me with no proof again that I am being wrong here. This will all be dealt with very soon. As I said last night I am willing to be checkusered at anytime to be Goldenburger must have several accounts possibly because he seem to know so much about it. btw admin, checkusered by any admin or check person. If that would prove me to have an extra account then I would leave from here. I am not worried. Goldenburger should receive a severe punishment for now two nights in a row making unfounded accusations against me with no proof. Jilly (talk) 03:10, 20 November 2014 (CET)

This is what I typed on the board for Jilly's nomination: I voted for her polite on there but It has been removed by someone:

Here is wait I posed but golddenburger removed it and my vote for jilly We need an administrator here right away because now both George C and Goldenburger111 are hiding by reverting Jully's comments here. Julie has a right to comment on here. I will go get the admin here soon Please look at the history of the page anyone can see there the mutiple reversion of Jilly's comment by these two guys. This is unacceptable. Are you guys just acting the same or are you the same one? anyone that wants to see why Goldenburger is doing such thing just go to his failed RFA and he is now out to not let Jilly even post here Your behaviour Goldenburg is disruptive. You are disrupting this nomination vote and also disputing Vikidia. I am going to go put in so mor articles now after I fet an admin to come read over all of this disrution that you have made Goldenburg111. You should be ashamed of your disruptive behaviour on here. Princess(talk) 02:03, 20 November 2014 thank you---- Princess(talk) 03:26, 20 November 2014

Thank you for writing what really happened Princess Jilly (talk) 03:29, 20 November 2014

I'll copy and paste my response "Woah, woah, slow down. I did no such thing. I am on your side, this is all getting a bit out of hand", you could have just undone Goldenburg's edit, but this is ok... --George Edward C – Talk – Contributions 17:08, 20 November 2014 (CET)

One last solution

The situation between User:Jilly/User:Princess and User:Goldenburg111 is quickly spiraling out of control and is causing serious disruption here on the English Vikidia. Since I really don't want to block those involved, I propose one last solution: an interaction ban (IBAN, see wp:WP:IBAN). Basically, Jilly/Princess and Goldenburg111: you are not allowed to:

• Post on each others user/user talk pages
• Reply to each other on discussion pages
• Mention each other
• Undo each other's edits

Please accept this solution (at least temporarily) to end this disruption. If this does not help, we will be forced to give out some blocks. But let's not go there, because blocking means that it stops the users from constructive article edits. Hope this helps, Wynter (talk) 18:41, 20 November 2014 (CET)

 Support This would definately help solve the problem. George Edward C – Talk – Contributions 18:54, 20 November 2014 (CET)

 Support Sounds perfect to me. It will allow me to just create and work on new articles, plus translate some new articles as well. I promise to go by these new guidelines in order to be only be positive, write more articles, and help Vikidia expand and grow. Thank you Wynter and GeorgeC for helping Vikidia. I will be over there in my user space picking some more titles from the wanted articles list. Happy editing to everyone! Jilly (talk) 20:04, 20 November 2014 (CET)

 Oppose It seems to me that User:Jilly/User:Princess has been far more disruptive than Goldenburg, so I am at a loss as to why he will be punished.--Mr Wiki Pro (talk) 20:11, 20 November 2014 (CET)

I won't read it all to have a detailed opinion on these users, yet I find important that one does not undo another's edits in the talk pages, be it seemingly useless (moreover if he just doesn't agree). It may just happen in case of insults, threats or so. In other case we may just reply or ignore, because it's very unpleasant to see his words just deleted, and it make harder to the other users to know what is going on. Not very long ago, on fr.vd, they were an user that often deleted things on the talk pages, probably in good faith, but I think it was wrong for the good functioning of the wiki.

by the way, if there is such a crisis, that proves that there is a community here ;-) I think that we'll get out of it and that users usually agree on the objectives of our work! Astirmays (talk) 20:59, 20 November 2014 (CET)

 Support This indeed is what we want. --Goldenburg111 (talk) 21:43, 20 November 2014 (CET)

https://en.vikidia.org/w/index.php?title=Vikidia:Request_for_permissions/Jilly&diff=53626&oldid=53450 - This user is mentioning me, i think Princess is Jilly, so basically Jilly is ignoring the interaction ban. --Goldenburg111 (talk) 21:39, 21 November 2014 (CET)

I have warned the user. The user may not have seen this, so I informed her about the topic ban. --George Edward C – Talk – Contributions 21:50, 21 November 2014 (CET)

 Support I indeed support this solution. I do not believe it is going to work in the long run though. I see here already user goldenburg111 has mentioned or referred to "Jilly" as an "IMMATURE TROLL" on the user page of user goldenburg111  ! the proof of that is here at this diff [2] these are the words that were said there by goldenburg111 in violation of the IBAN he agreed to in this section above.

I know Klipe :-) Just some immature troll like behavior you usually find across Wikis these days. And I know you're not that immature to bring up a solved issue. Anyways, I'm planning on trying in a few months to come. Thanks! --Goldenburg111 (talk) 00:12, 23 November 2014 (CET)

I request that goldenburg111 be sanctioned or punished for trying to continue that stupid feud he had with that girl Jilly. Due to the level of disruption that Goldenburg111 caused over a two day period, and now directly violating an IBAN he agreed to support, he deserves at least a one week block. I hope then when he gets back he will just contribute, and write articles and stuff instead of causing trouble and DISRUPTION to Vikidia. Best regards to all JohnCCollins (talk) 02:23, 23 November 2014 (CET)

Probably the funniest comment I have ever seen on Vikida lol... --Goldenburg111 (talk) 03:16, 23 November 2014 (CET)

I don't really see how this comment is humorous, it brings up legitimate points. George Edward C – Talk – Contributions 09:57, 23 November 2014 (CET)

How disrespectful to Vikidia and all people here involved goldenburg111 has been by this comment above! :Probably the funniest comment I have ever seen on Vikida lol... --Goldenburg111 (talk) 03:16, 23 November 2014 (CET) This is a pure outrage for him to be so flippant during such a serious matter. I guess all the administrators are enjoying time with their families being that it is Sunday! Perhaps Monday might not be such a good day for user goldenburg111 One could only hope for this matter to be squashed by the proper placement of a hefty block for all his disruption, disrespectful behaviours to Vikidia, and all the othe editors, and admins here. Please are not any admins around on this day Sunday. George.Edward.C do you not know how to email the founder that Asti -something name. I am sorry I do not remember his exact name. Please George.Edward.C, help Vikidia, you are the highest one here are you not? This is just all so wrong. Best regards! JohnCCollins (talk) 20:50, 23 November 2014 (CET)

Hi John, I do know how to email Astirmays, and I will try to email him at the earliest possible time. I'm not able to do so atm as I'm on a mobile. Thanks, --George Edward C – Talk – Contributions 21:22, 23 November 2014 (CET)

It's funny because John isn't let going of things and even lying to lol he doesn't even have any proof that I violated the Ban lol seriously tho John made my day today. --Goldenburg111 (talk) 22:22, 23 November 2014 (CET)

PROOF [3][4][5]----see here already user goldenburg111 has mentioned or referred to "Jilly" as an "IMMATURE TROLL" on the user page of user goldenburg111  ! the proof of that is here at this diff [6] these are the words that were said there by goldenburg111 in violation of the IBAN he agreed to in this section above.

I know Klipe :-) Just some immature troll like behavior you usually find across Wikis these days. And I know you're not that immature to bring up a solved issue. Anyways, I'm planning on trying in a few months to come. Thanks! --Goldenburg111 (talk) 00:12, 23 November 2014 (CET)

proof is still sitting right there where you broke the IBAN I put the clickable link of the proof there three times so in case your mouse breaks there will still be two other spots to click for also to see the PROOF. Best regards Jilly (talk) 23:01, 23 November 2014 (CET)

I wasn't talking about you, I meant was that people who vote twice in RFAs is immature troll like behavior, not you. Quit assuming stuff so quickly, don't you have anything better to do than stalk my page? --Goldenburg111 (talk) 02:18, 24 November 2014 (CET)

I thought you, Jilly and Goldenburg111, had an interaction ban, and I still see communication between you. Stop please. I really don't want to do it, but if you guys don't stop, Wynter or I probably will need to block you to not cause more issues. You both are good editors, but we can't allow this behaviour. @George Edward C., we need to be not dependent of totally other staff handling our issues here, as a CheckUser is not needed (and we can block ourselves). Southparkfan 21:55, 24 November 2014 (CET)

Patroller rights

Hi. I recently created a bot account (YoshiBotico) but has problems with the filters. I think with the patroller right the problems dissapear. Thank you. Yoshi ^Talk 21:40, 23 November 2014 (CET)

Has this bot been approved? I may also want to start my own interwiki bot, but only when we get the wikis SULd. --George Edward C – Talk – Contributions 21:09, 24 November 2014 (CET)

I added some codes to the bot. I think now can work. Thanks anyway . Yoshi ^Talk 22:24, 24 November 2014 (CET)

No problem. I somebow accidently reverted your edit XD. George Edward C – Talk – Contributions 08:10, 25 November 2014 (CET)